COUNT(*) or MAX(id) - which is faster?How to efficiently count the number of keys/properties of an object in...

A poker game description that does not feel gimmicky

Pristine Bit Checking

Why do UK politicians seemingly ignore opinion polls on Brexit?

Extreme, but not acceptable situation and I can't start the work tomorrow morning

Can a planet have a different gravitational pull depending on its location in orbit around its sun?

Need help identifying/translating a plaque in Tangier, Morocco

Does bootstrapped regression allow for inference?

Is "plugging out" electronic devices an American expression?

How to make payment on the internet without leaving a money trail?

How to move the player while also allowing forces to affect it

How is it possible for user's password to be changed after storage was encrypted? (on OS X, Android)

Patience, young "Padovan"

Could a US political party gain complete control over the government by removing checks & balances?

Calculate Levenshtein distance between two strings in Python

What does 'script /dev/null' do?

What is GPS' 19 year rollover and does it present a cybersecurity issue?

Manga about a female worker who got dragged into another world together with this high school girl and she was just told she's not needed anymore

Is it legal to have the "// (c) 2019 John Smith" header in all files when there are hundreds of contributors?

What do the Banks children have against barley water?

What is the offset in a seaplane's hull?

COUNT(*) or MAX(id) - which is faster?

What are the advantages and disadvantages of running one shots compared to campaigns?

Can I legally use front facing blue light in the UK?

extract characters between two commas?



COUNT(*) or MAX(id) - which is faster?


How to efficiently count the number of keys/properties of an object in JavaScript?Which “href” value should I use for JavaScript links, “#” or “javascript:void(0)”?Which is faster: Stack allocation or Heap allocationSQL select only rows with max value on a columnWhy are elementwise additions much faster in separate loops than in a combined loop?Why is it faster to process a sorted array than an unsorted array?Why does Python code run faster in a function?Is < faster than <=?Which is faster: while(1) or while(2)?Why is [] faster than list()?






.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty{ height:90px;width:728px;box-sizing:border-box;
}







9















i have a web server, that has my own messaging system implemented.
I am at phase, when i need to create API, that checks, if the user has new message(s).
My DB table is simple:



ID - Auto Increment, Primary Key (Bigint)
Sender - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Recipient - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Message - Varchar (256) //UTF8 BIN


I am considering to make an api, that will estimate, if there are new messages for given user. I am thinking to use one of these methods:



A) Select count(*) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if this number > previous number, I have new message)



B) Select max(ID) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if max(ID) > than previous number, I have new message)



My question is: Can i calculate somehow, what method will consume less server resources? Or is there some article? Maybe another method i not mentioned?










share|improve this question




















  • 2





    I think you would be better off by adding a timestamp column and checking against that value to see if there are newer records.

    – Dharman
    7 hours ago











  • Either querying a timestamp or the ID, use MAX() on that column, and make sure it's indexed with (user_id, timestamp).

    – The Impaler
    7 hours ago











  • @Dharman i was thinking of it. But it costs extra DB space, also i am not sure if it will be faster than one of my methods. I am storing the simple number (of current messages) in usernames table

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    Calculate? No idea. But you can measure it. Fire off a few thousands of each query and watch machine metrics (cpu%, mem%, load average, etc.)

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    While there is a good answer to this question below, I suspect you might be optimizing on something that turns out not to be important. And unless you anticipate having literally millions of messages, I wouldn't worry about disk space, especially because the timestamp is small compared to your other fields. If you add timestamps, your table will be about 5MB larger for each million messages. That's really nothing.

    – Jerry
    6 hours ago


















9















i have a web server, that has my own messaging system implemented.
I am at phase, when i need to create API, that checks, if the user has new message(s).
My DB table is simple:



ID - Auto Increment, Primary Key (Bigint)
Sender - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Recipient - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Message - Varchar (256) //UTF8 BIN


I am considering to make an api, that will estimate, if there are new messages for given user. I am thinking to use one of these methods:



A) Select count(*) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if this number > previous number, I have new message)



B) Select max(ID) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if max(ID) > than previous number, I have new message)



My question is: Can i calculate somehow, what method will consume less server resources? Or is there some article? Maybe another method i not mentioned?










share|improve this question




















  • 2





    I think you would be better off by adding a timestamp column and checking against that value to see if there are newer records.

    – Dharman
    7 hours ago











  • Either querying a timestamp or the ID, use MAX() on that column, and make sure it's indexed with (user_id, timestamp).

    – The Impaler
    7 hours ago











  • @Dharman i was thinking of it. But it costs extra DB space, also i am not sure if it will be faster than one of my methods. I am storing the simple number (of current messages) in usernames table

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    Calculate? No idea. But you can measure it. Fire off a few thousands of each query and watch machine metrics (cpu%, mem%, load average, etc.)

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    While there is a good answer to this question below, I suspect you might be optimizing on something that turns out not to be important. And unless you anticipate having literally millions of messages, I wouldn't worry about disk space, especially because the timestamp is small compared to your other fields. If you add timestamps, your table will be about 5MB larger for each million messages. That's really nothing.

    – Jerry
    6 hours ago














9












9








9


1






i have a web server, that has my own messaging system implemented.
I am at phase, when i need to create API, that checks, if the user has new message(s).
My DB table is simple:



ID - Auto Increment, Primary Key (Bigint)
Sender - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Recipient - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Message - Varchar (256) //UTF8 BIN


I am considering to make an api, that will estimate, if there are new messages for given user. I am thinking to use one of these methods:



A) Select count(*) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if this number > previous number, I have new message)



B) Select max(ID) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if max(ID) > than previous number, I have new message)



My question is: Can i calculate somehow, what method will consume less server resources? Or is there some article? Maybe another method i not mentioned?










share|improve this question
















i have a web server, that has my own messaging system implemented.
I am at phase, when i need to create API, that checks, if the user has new message(s).
My DB table is simple:



ID - Auto Increment, Primary Key (Bigint)
Sender - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Recipient - Varchar (32) // Foreign Key to UserID hash from Users DB Table
Message - Varchar (256) //UTF8 BIN


I am considering to make an api, that will estimate, if there are new messages for given user. I am thinking to use one of these methods:



A) Select count(*) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if this number > previous number, I have new message)



B) Select max(ID) of messages where sender or recipient is me.

(if max(ID) > than previous number, I have new message)



My question is: Can i calculate somehow, what method will consume less server resources? Or is there some article? Maybe another method i not mentioned?







php mysql performance






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 3 hours ago









Peter Cordes

134k18203342




134k18203342










asked 7 hours ago









FeHoraFeHora

535




535








  • 2





    I think you would be better off by adding a timestamp column and checking against that value to see if there are newer records.

    – Dharman
    7 hours ago











  • Either querying a timestamp or the ID, use MAX() on that column, and make sure it's indexed with (user_id, timestamp).

    – The Impaler
    7 hours ago











  • @Dharman i was thinking of it. But it costs extra DB space, also i am not sure if it will be faster than one of my methods. I am storing the simple number (of current messages) in usernames table

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    Calculate? No idea. But you can measure it. Fire off a few thousands of each query and watch machine metrics (cpu%, mem%, load average, etc.)

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    While there is a good answer to this question below, I suspect you might be optimizing on something that turns out not to be important. And unless you anticipate having literally millions of messages, I wouldn't worry about disk space, especially because the timestamp is small compared to your other fields. If you add timestamps, your table will be about 5MB larger for each million messages. That's really nothing.

    – Jerry
    6 hours ago














  • 2





    I think you would be better off by adding a timestamp column and checking against that value to see if there are newer records.

    – Dharman
    7 hours ago











  • Either querying a timestamp or the ID, use MAX() on that column, and make sure it's indexed with (user_id, timestamp).

    – The Impaler
    7 hours ago











  • @Dharman i was thinking of it. But it costs extra DB space, also i am not sure if it will be faster than one of my methods. I am storing the simple number (of current messages) in usernames table

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    Calculate? No idea. But you can measure it. Fire off a few thousands of each query and watch machine metrics (cpu%, mem%, load average, etc.)

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    While there is a good answer to this question below, I suspect you might be optimizing on something that turns out not to be important. And unless you anticipate having literally millions of messages, I wouldn't worry about disk space, especially because the timestamp is small compared to your other fields. If you add timestamps, your table will be about 5MB larger for each million messages. That's really nothing.

    – Jerry
    6 hours ago








2




2





I think you would be better off by adding a timestamp column and checking against that value to see if there are newer records.

– Dharman
7 hours ago





I think you would be better off by adding a timestamp column and checking against that value to see if there are newer records.

– Dharman
7 hours ago













Either querying a timestamp or the ID, use MAX() on that column, and make sure it's indexed with (user_id, timestamp).

– The Impaler
7 hours ago





Either querying a timestamp or the ID, use MAX() on that column, and make sure it's indexed with (user_id, timestamp).

– The Impaler
7 hours ago













@Dharman i was thinking of it. But it costs extra DB space, also i am not sure if it will be faster than one of my methods. I am storing the simple number (of current messages) in usernames table

– FeHora
7 hours ago





@Dharman i was thinking of it. But it costs extra DB space, also i am not sure if it will be faster than one of my methods. I am storing the simple number (of current messages) in usernames table

– FeHora
7 hours ago




1




1





Calculate? No idea. But you can measure it. Fire off a few thousands of each query and watch machine metrics (cpu%, mem%, load average, etc.)

– Sergio Tulentsev
7 hours ago





Calculate? No idea. But you can measure it. Fire off a few thousands of each query and watch machine metrics (cpu%, mem%, load average, etc.)

– Sergio Tulentsev
7 hours ago




1




1





While there is a good answer to this question below, I suspect you might be optimizing on something that turns out not to be important. And unless you anticipate having literally millions of messages, I wouldn't worry about disk space, especially because the timestamp is small compared to your other fields. If you add timestamps, your table will be about 5MB larger for each million messages. That's really nothing.

– Jerry
6 hours ago





While there is a good answer to this question below, I suspect you might be optimizing on something that turns out not to be important. And unless you anticipate having literally millions of messages, I wouldn't worry about disk space, especially because the timestamp is small compared to your other fields. If you add timestamps, your table will be about 5MB larger for each million messages. That's really nothing.

– Jerry
6 hours ago












3 Answers
3






active

oldest

votes


















12














In MySQL InnoDB, SELECT COUNT(*) WHERE secondary_index = ? is an expensive operation and when the user has a lot of messages, this query might take a long time. Even when using an index, the engine still needs to count all matching records.



On the other hand, SELECT MAX(id) WHERE secondary_index = ? can deliver the highest id in that index very efficiently and runs in constant speed by doing a so-called loose index scan.



If you want to understand why, consider looking up the "B-Tree+" data structure which InnoDB uses to organise its data.



I suggest you go with SELECT MAX(id), if the requirement is only to check if there are new messages (and not the count of them).



Also, if you rely on the message count you might open a gap for race conditions. What if the user deletes a message and receives a new one between two polling intervals?






share|improve this answer


























  • refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

    – Kaii
    7 hours ago






  • 1





    "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago











  • @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago








  • 3





    If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

    – O. Jones
    6 hours ago








  • 1





    @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

    – Kaii
    6 hours ago





















1














To have the information that someone has new messages - do exactly that. Update the field in users table (I'm assuming that's the name) when a new message is recorded in the system. You have the recipient's ID, that's all you need. You can create an after insert trigger (assumption: there's users2messages table) that updates users table with a boolean flag indicating there's a message.



This approach is by far faster than counting indexes, be the index primary or secondary. When the user performs an action, you can update the users table with has_messages = 0, when a new message arrives - you update the table with has_messages = 1. It's simple, it works, it scales and using triggers to maintain it makes it easy and seamless.
I'm sure there will be nay-sayers who don't like triggers, you can do it manually at the point of associating a user with a new message.






share|improve this answer
























  • triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

    – Kaii
    6 hours ago













  • @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

    – FeHora
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

    – Mjh
    6 hours ago





















0














If you need to know the number of new messages then using
Select count(*) from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id would be your best option.



I'm a fan of using exists where possible, so to determine IF there are new messages, my query would be Select exists(Select 1 from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id). The benefit of exists is that as soon as it finds 1 record it returns true.



Edit: To avoid any confusion in reading this answer, both of those queries would also include a check for other_user_id in (sender, recipient) in order to only return the messages between 2 specific users.





share


























    Your Answer






    StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function () {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function () {
    StackExchange.snippets.init();
    });
    });
    }, "code-snippets");

    StackExchange.ready(function() {
    var channelOptions = {
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "1"
    };
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
    createEditor();
    });
    }
    else {
    createEditor();
    }
    });

    function createEditor() {
    StackExchange.prepareEditor({
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: true,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: 10,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader: {
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    },
    onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    });


    }
    });














    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function () {
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f55581114%2fcount-or-maxid-which-is-faster%23new-answer', 'question_page');
    }
    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    3 Answers
    3






    active

    oldest

    votes








    3 Answers
    3






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    12














    In MySQL InnoDB, SELECT COUNT(*) WHERE secondary_index = ? is an expensive operation and when the user has a lot of messages, this query might take a long time. Even when using an index, the engine still needs to count all matching records.



    On the other hand, SELECT MAX(id) WHERE secondary_index = ? can deliver the highest id in that index very efficiently and runs in constant speed by doing a so-called loose index scan.



    If you want to understand why, consider looking up the "B-Tree+" data structure which InnoDB uses to organise its data.



    I suggest you go with SELECT MAX(id), if the requirement is only to check if there are new messages (and not the count of them).



    Also, if you rely on the message count you might open a gap for race conditions. What if the user deletes a message and receives a new one between two polling intervals?






    share|improve this answer


























    • refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

      – Kaii
      7 hours ago






    • 1





      "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

      – Sergio Tulentsev
      7 hours ago











    • @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

      – FeHora
      7 hours ago








    • 3





      If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

      – O. Jones
      6 hours ago








    • 1





      @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago


















    12














    In MySQL InnoDB, SELECT COUNT(*) WHERE secondary_index = ? is an expensive operation and when the user has a lot of messages, this query might take a long time. Even when using an index, the engine still needs to count all matching records.



    On the other hand, SELECT MAX(id) WHERE secondary_index = ? can deliver the highest id in that index very efficiently and runs in constant speed by doing a so-called loose index scan.



    If you want to understand why, consider looking up the "B-Tree+" data structure which InnoDB uses to organise its data.



    I suggest you go with SELECT MAX(id), if the requirement is only to check if there are new messages (and not the count of them).



    Also, if you rely on the message count you might open a gap for race conditions. What if the user deletes a message and receives a new one between two polling intervals?






    share|improve this answer


























    • refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

      – Kaii
      7 hours ago






    • 1





      "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

      – Sergio Tulentsev
      7 hours ago











    • @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

      – FeHora
      7 hours ago








    • 3





      If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

      – O. Jones
      6 hours ago








    • 1





      @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago
















    12












    12








    12







    In MySQL InnoDB, SELECT COUNT(*) WHERE secondary_index = ? is an expensive operation and when the user has a lot of messages, this query might take a long time. Even when using an index, the engine still needs to count all matching records.



    On the other hand, SELECT MAX(id) WHERE secondary_index = ? can deliver the highest id in that index very efficiently and runs in constant speed by doing a so-called loose index scan.



    If you want to understand why, consider looking up the "B-Tree+" data structure which InnoDB uses to organise its data.



    I suggest you go with SELECT MAX(id), if the requirement is only to check if there are new messages (and not the count of them).



    Also, if you rely on the message count you might open a gap for race conditions. What if the user deletes a message and receives a new one between two polling intervals?






    share|improve this answer















    In MySQL InnoDB, SELECT COUNT(*) WHERE secondary_index = ? is an expensive operation and when the user has a lot of messages, this query might take a long time. Even when using an index, the engine still needs to count all matching records.



    On the other hand, SELECT MAX(id) WHERE secondary_index = ? can deliver the highest id in that index very efficiently and runs in constant speed by doing a so-called loose index scan.



    If you want to understand why, consider looking up the "B-Tree+" data structure which InnoDB uses to organise its data.



    I suggest you go with SELECT MAX(id), if the requirement is only to check if there are new messages (and not the count of them).



    Also, if you rely on the message count you might open a gap for race conditions. What if the user deletes a message and receives a new one between two polling intervals?







    share|improve this answer














    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer








    edited 6 hours ago

























    answered 7 hours ago









    KaiiKaii

    15.7k22951




    15.7k22951













    • refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

      – Kaii
      7 hours ago






    • 1





      "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

      – Sergio Tulentsev
      7 hours ago











    • @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

      – FeHora
      7 hours ago








    • 3





      If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

      – O. Jones
      6 hours ago








    • 1





      @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago





















    • refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

      – Kaii
      7 hours ago






    • 1





      "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

      – Sergio Tulentsev
      7 hours ago











    • @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

      – FeHora
      7 hours ago








    • 3





      If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

      – O. Jones
      6 hours ago








    • 1





      @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago



















    refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

    – Kaii
    7 hours ago





    refer: dba.stackexchange.com/questions/130780/mysql-count-performance

    – Kaii
    7 hours ago




    1




    1





    "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago





    "SELECT MAX(id) will always use the primary index" - yeah, except for the cases when there's a where on an unindexed field.

    – Sergio Tulentsev
    7 hours ago













    @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago







    @SergioTulentsev i forgot to mention in my main post, sender and recipient are foreign keys to user-hash (ID) - primary key in users table. So it will be indexed always.

    – FeHora
    7 hours ago






    3




    3





    If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

    – O. Jones
    6 hours ago







    If there's an index on a, then SELECT MAX(id) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant uses a so-called loose index scan. Those are almost miraculously fast. SELECT COUNT(*) FROM tbl WHERE a=constant does a tight index scan, which is not as fast.

    – O. Jones
    6 hours ago






    1




    1





    @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

    – Kaii
    6 hours ago







    @FeHora i strongly suggest to setup some sort of test environment, a database with generated records for you to play with.

    – Kaii
    6 hours ago















    1














    To have the information that someone has new messages - do exactly that. Update the field in users table (I'm assuming that's the name) when a new message is recorded in the system. You have the recipient's ID, that's all you need. You can create an after insert trigger (assumption: there's users2messages table) that updates users table with a boolean flag indicating there's a message.



    This approach is by far faster than counting indexes, be the index primary or secondary. When the user performs an action, you can update the users table with has_messages = 0, when a new message arrives - you update the table with has_messages = 1. It's simple, it works, it scales and using triggers to maintain it makes it easy and seamless.
    I'm sure there will be nay-sayers who don't like triggers, you can do it manually at the point of associating a user with a new message.






    share|improve this answer
























    • triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago













    • @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

      – FeHora
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

      – Mjh
      6 hours ago


















    1














    To have the information that someone has new messages - do exactly that. Update the field in users table (I'm assuming that's the name) when a new message is recorded in the system. You have the recipient's ID, that's all you need. You can create an after insert trigger (assumption: there's users2messages table) that updates users table with a boolean flag indicating there's a message.



    This approach is by far faster than counting indexes, be the index primary or secondary. When the user performs an action, you can update the users table with has_messages = 0, when a new message arrives - you update the table with has_messages = 1. It's simple, it works, it scales and using triggers to maintain it makes it easy and seamless.
    I'm sure there will be nay-sayers who don't like triggers, you can do it manually at the point of associating a user with a new message.






    share|improve this answer
























    • triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago













    • @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

      – FeHora
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

      – Mjh
      6 hours ago
















    1












    1








    1







    To have the information that someone has new messages - do exactly that. Update the field in users table (I'm assuming that's the name) when a new message is recorded in the system. You have the recipient's ID, that's all you need. You can create an after insert trigger (assumption: there's users2messages table) that updates users table with a boolean flag indicating there's a message.



    This approach is by far faster than counting indexes, be the index primary or secondary. When the user performs an action, you can update the users table with has_messages = 0, when a new message arrives - you update the table with has_messages = 1. It's simple, it works, it scales and using triggers to maintain it makes it easy and seamless.
    I'm sure there will be nay-sayers who don't like triggers, you can do it manually at the point of associating a user with a new message.






    share|improve this answer













    To have the information that someone has new messages - do exactly that. Update the field in users table (I'm assuming that's the name) when a new message is recorded in the system. You have the recipient's ID, that's all you need. You can create an after insert trigger (assumption: there's users2messages table) that updates users table with a boolean flag indicating there's a message.



    This approach is by far faster than counting indexes, be the index primary or secondary. When the user performs an action, you can update the users table with has_messages = 0, when a new message arrives - you update the table with has_messages = 1. It's simple, it works, it scales and using triggers to maintain it makes it easy and seamless.
    I'm sure there will be nay-sayers who don't like triggers, you can do it manually at the point of associating a user with a new message.







    share|improve this answer












    share|improve this answer



    share|improve this answer










    answered 6 hours ago









    MjhMjh

    1,98911112




    1,98911112













    • triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago













    • @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

      – FeHora
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

      – Mjh
      6 hours ago





















    • triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

      – Kaii
      6 hours ago













    • @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

      – FeHora
      6 hours ago






    • 1





      @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

      – Mjh
      6 hours ago



















    triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

    – Kaii
    6 hours ago







    triggers aside, looking up a row using the PK and also reading it to check the boolean is still more expensive than executing a single loose index scan. It gets worse when you also add a WHERE clause to check the boolean flag because of the low cardinality even if you index that field. Sorry to tell you you that, but you have a misunderstanding there.

    – Kaii
    6 hours ago















    @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

    – FeHora
    6 hours ago





    @Mjh i know about that.. but it's definitely more expensive than my suggested methods, because it contains (at least) 1x update + 1x select

    – FeHora
    6 hours ago




    1




    1





    @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

    – Mjh
    6 hours ago







    @Kaii SELECT has_messages FROM users WHERE id = 1; is the fastest query there is. It's an eq_ref which is infinitely faster than counting a number of records in the table. The boolean field is not in the WHERE clause, the primary key is. Please, assume better next time. In regards to updating the table: the update is fast as well, it handles a single row located using the primary key. If the field is already containing the value that you're updating to, no actual disk I/O occurs and there's a minimal performance penalty. Much less than counting the records. You can measure.

    – Mjh
    6 hours ago













    0














    If you need to know the number of new messages then using
    Select count(*) from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id would be your best option.



    I'm a fan of using exists where possible, so to determine IF there are new messages, my query would be Select exists(Select 1 from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id). The benefit of exists is that as soon as it finds 1 record it returns true.



    Edit: To avoid any confusion in reading this answer, both of those queries would also include a check for other_user_id in (sender, recipient) in order to only return the messages between 2 specific users.





    share






























      0














      If you need to know the number of new messages then using
      Select count(*) from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id would be your best option.



      I'm a fan of using exists where possible, so to determine IF there are new messages, my query would be Select exists(Select 1 from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id). The benefit of exists is that as soon as it finds 1 record it returns true.



      Edit: To avoid any confusion in reading this answer, both of those queries would also include a check for other_user_id in (sender, recipient) in order to only return the messages between 2 specific users.





      share




























        0












        0








        0







        If you need to know the number of new messages then using
        Select count(*) from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id would be your best option.



        I'm a fan of using exists where possible, so to determine IF there are new messages, my query would be Select exists(Select 1 from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id). The benefit of exists is that as soon as it finds 1 record it returns true.



        Edit: To avoid any confusion in reading this answer, both of those queries would also include a check for other_user_id in (sender, recipient) in order to only return the messages between 2 specific users.





        share















        If you need to know the number of new messages then using
        Select count(*) from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id would be your best option.



        I'm a fan of using exists where possible, so to determine IF there are new messages, my query would be Select exists(Select 1 from Messages where user_id in (sender, recipient) and id > last_seen_id). The benefit of exists is that as soon as it finds 1 record it returns true.



        Edit: To avoid any confusion in reading this answer, both of those queries would also include a check for other_user_id in (sender, recipient) in order to only return the messages between 2 specific users.






        share













        share


        share








        edited 4 mins ago

























        answered 9 mins ago









        AaronAaron

        417




        417






























            draft saved

            draft discarded




















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Stack Overflow!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid



            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function () {
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fstackoverflow.com%2fquestions%2f55581114%2fcount-or-maxid-which-is-faster%23new-answer', 'question_page');
            }
            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown







            Popular posts from this blog

            Why do type traits not work with types in namespace scope?What are POD types in C++?Why can templates only be...

            Will tsunami waves travel forever if there was no land?Why do tsunami waves begin with the water flowing away...

            Simple Scan not detecting my scanner (Brother DCP-7055W)Brother MFC-L2700DW printer can print, can't...