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I'm self-studying from Stroud & Booth's amazing "Engineering Mathematics", and am stuck on a problem at the end of the "Linear Equations" chapter.



I've a system of two linear equations:



$$frac{3x+2}{4} - frac{x+2y}{2} = frac{x-3}{12}$$
$$frac{2y+1}{5} + frac{x-3y}{4} = frac{3x+1}{10}$$



So, these two first need to be simplified. I assume that the LSM for the first one (for 2, 4 and 12) is 12, so we have:



$$12frac{3x+2}{4} - 12frac{x+2y}{2} = 12frac{x-3}{12}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$3(3x+2) - 6(x+2y) = (x-3)$$
$$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$
$$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$



Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$



Now, onto the second one. The LSM of 5, 4 and 10 is 20, so we have:



$$20frac{2y+1}{5} + 20frac{x-3y}{4} = 20frac{3x+1}{10}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$4(2y+1) + 5(x-3y) = 2(3x + 1)$$
$$8y + 4 + 5x - 15y = 6x + 2$$
$$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



We get our second simplified linear equation:
$$-x -7y = 2$$



Now we can solve our system of linear equations:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-x -7y = 4$$



Multiplying the second one by 2:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-2x -14y = 4$$



Now, we add the two equations, and get:
$$-26y = 7$$



Solving for $y$, we get:
$$y = -frac{7}{26}$$



which I'm fairly certain is not a correct answer.



Can anyone see where I'm going wrong here?










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    When you take the $+6$ from the left hand side to the right hand side of the equal sign in the first equation you must switch its sign and it wil become $-6$. And in the second equation $2-4=-2$ and not $2$. So you'll get that $y=frac{1}{2}$ at the end
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I'm self-studying from Stroud & Booth's amazing "Engineering Mathematics", and am stuck on a problem at the end of the "Linear Equations" chapter.



I've a system of two linear equations:



$$frac{3x+2}{4} - frac{x+2y}{2} = frac{x-3}{12}$$
$$frac{2y+1}{5} + frac{x-3y}{4} = frac{3x+1}{10}$$



So, these two first need to be simplified. I assume that the LSM for the first one (for 2, 4 and 12) is 12, so we have:



$$12frac{3x+2}{4} - 12frac{x+2y}{2} = 12frac{x-3}{12}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$3(3x+2) - 6(x+2y) = (x-3)$$
$$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$
$$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$



Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$



Now, onto the second one. The LSM of 5, 4 and 10 is 20, so we have:



$$20frac{2y+1}{5} + 20frac{x-3y}{4} = 20frac{3x+1}{10}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$4(2y+1) + 5(x-3y) = 2(3x + 1)$$
$$8y + 4 + 5x - 15y = 6x + 2$$
$$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



We get our second simplified linear equation:
$$-x -7y = 2$$



Now we can solve our system of linear equations:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-x -7y = 4$$



Multiplying the second one by 2:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-2x -14y = 4$$



Now, we add the two equations, and get:
$$-26y = 7$$



Solving for $y$, we get:
$$y = -frac{7}{26}$$



which I'm fairly certain is not a correct answer.



Can anyone see where I'm going wrong here?










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  • $begingroup$
    When you take the $+6$ from the left hand side to the right hand side of the equal sign in the first equation you must switch its sign and it wil become $-6$. And in the second equation $2-4=-2$ and not $2$. So you'll get that $y=frac{1}{2}$ at the end
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I'm self-studying from Stroud & Booth's amazing "Engineering Mathematics", and am stuck on a problem at the end of the "Linear Equations" chapter.



I've a system of two linear equations:



$$frac{3x+2}{4} - frac{x+2y}{2} = frac{x-3}{12}$$
$$frac{2y+1}{5} + frac{x-3y}{4} = frac{3x+1}{10}$$



So, these two first need to be simplified. I assume that the LSM for the first one (for 2, 4 and 12) is 12, so we have:



$$12frac{3x+2}{4} - 12frac{x+2y}{2} = 12frac{x-3}{12}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$3(3x+2) - 6(x+2y) = (x-3)$$
$$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$
$$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$



Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$



Now, onto the second one. The LSM of 5, 4 and 10 is 20, so we have:



$$20frac{2y+1}{5} + 20frac{x-3y}{4} = 20frac{3x+1}{10}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$4(2y+1) + 5(x-3y) = 2(3x + 1)$$
$$8y + 4 + 5x - 15y = 6x + 2$$
$$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



We get our second simplified linear equation:
$$-x -7y = 2$$



Now we can solve our system of linear equations:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-x -7y = 4$$



Multiplying the second one by 2:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-2x -14y = 4$$



Now, we add the two equations, and get:
$$-26y = 7$$



Solving for $y$, we get:
$$y = -frac{7}{26}$$



which I'm fairly certain is not a correct answer.



Can anyone see where I'm going wrong here?










share|cite|improve this question











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I'm self-studying from Stroud & Booth's amazing "Engineering Mathematics", and am stuck on a problem at the end of the "Linear Equations" chapter.



I've a system of two linear equations:



$$frac{3x+2}{4} - frac{x+2y}{2} = frac{x-3}{12}$$
$$frac{2y+1}{5} + frac{x-3y}{4} = frac{3x+1}{10}$$



So, these two first need to be simplified. I assume that the LSM for the first one (for 2, 4 and 12) is 12, so we have:



$$12frac{3x+2}{4} - 12frac{x+2y}{2} = 12frac{x-3}{12}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$3(3x+2) - 6(x+2y) = (x-3)$$
$$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$
$$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$



Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$



Now, onto the second one. The LSM of 5, 4 and 10 is 20, so we have:



$$20frac{2y+1}{5} + 20frac{x-3y}{4} = 20frac{3x+1}{10}$$



Simplifying further, we have:



$$4(2y+1) + 5(x-3y) = 2(3x + 1)$$
$$8y + 4 + 5x - 15y = 6x + 2$$
$$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



We get our second simplified linear equation:
$$-x -7y = 2$$



Now we can solve our system of linear equations:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-x -7y = 4$$



Multiplying the second one by 2:
$$2x - 12y = 3$$
$$-2x -14y = 4$$



Now, we add the two equations, and get:
$$-26y = 7$$



Solving for $y$, we get:
$$y = -frac{7}{26}$$



which I'm fairly certain is not a correct answer.



Can anyone see where I'm going wrong here?







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    When you take the $+6$ from the left hand side to the right hand side of the equal sign in the first equation you must switch its sign and it wil become $-6$. And in the second equation $2-4=-2$ and not $2$. So you'll get that $y=frac{1}{2}$ at the end
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  • $begingroup$
    When you take the $+6$ from the left hand side to the right hand side of the equal sign in the first equation you must switch its sign and it wil become $-6$. And in the second equation $2-4=-2$ and not $2$. So you'll get that $y=frac{1}{2}$ at the end
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$begingroup$
When you take the $+6$ from the left hand side to the right hand side of the equal sign in the first equation you must switch its sign and it wil become $-6$. And in the second equation $2-4=-2$ and not $2$. So you'll get that $y=frac{1}{2}$ at the end
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– Fareed AF
11 hours ago






$begingroup$
When you take the $+6$ from the left hand side to the right hand side of the equal sign in the first equation you must switch its sign and it wil become $-6$. And in the second equation $2-4=-2$ and not $2$. So you'll get that $y=frac{1}{2}$ at the end
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The first mistake I see is here:




$$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$ $$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$




The second line should read



$$9x-6x-x-12y=-3-6$$



you forgot to invert the sign when moving $6$ to the other side of the $=$ sign.





You were equally sloppy with the second equation, when you did this:




$$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



We get our second simplified linear equation: $$-x -7y = 2$$




In fact, $2-4$ is not equal to $2$.






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    The first equation simplifies to $$2x-12y=-9$$ and the second one to $$-7y-x=-2$$






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      Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
      This step is wrong:



      $2x-12y=-9$ this should be your first equation.






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        The first mistake I see is here:




        $$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$ $$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$




        The second line should read



        $$9x-6x-x-12y=-3-6$$



        you forgot to invert the sign when moving $6$ to the other side of the $=$ sign.





        You were equally sloppy with the second equation, when you did this:




        $$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



        We get our second simplified linear equation: $$-x -7y = 2$$




        In fact, $2-4$ is not equal to $2$.






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          $begingroup$

          The first mistake I see is here:




          $$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$ $$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$




          The second line should read



          $$9x-6x-x-12y=-3-6$$



          you forgot to invert the sign when moving $6$ to the other side of the $=$ sign.





          You were equally sloppy with the second equation, when you did this:




          $$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



          We get our second simplified linear equation: $$-x -7y = 2$$




          In fact, $2-4$ is not equal to $2$.






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            The first mistake I see is here:




            $$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$ $$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$




            The second line should read



            $$9x-6x-x-12y=-3-6$$



            you forgot to invert the sign when moving $6$ to the other side of the $=$ sign.





            You were equally sloppy with the second equation, when you did this:




            $$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



            We get our second simplified linear equation: $$-x -7y = 2$$




            In fact, $2-4$ is not equal to $2$.






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            The first mistake I see is here:




            $$9x + 6 - 6x - 12 y = x - 3$$ $$9x -6x -x - 12y = -3 +6$$




            The second line should read



            $$9x-6x-x-12y=-3-6$$



            you forgot to invert the sign when moving $6$ to the other side of the $=$ sign.





            You were equally sloppy with the second equation, when you did this:




            $$5x - 6x + 8y - 15y = 2 - 4$$



            We get our second simplified linear equation: $$-x -7y = 2$$




            In fact, $2-4$ is not equal to $2$.







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                The first equation simplifies to $$2x-12y=-9$$ and the second one to $$-7y-x=-2$$






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                        Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
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                        $2x-12y=-9$ this should be your first equation.






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                            Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
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                            $2x-12y=-9$ this should be your first equation.






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                            Finally, we get our first simplified linear equation:
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                            $2x-12y=-9$ this should be your first equation.







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