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I am trying to connect to Remote machine (Windows 7 OS) using Remote Desktop Viewer.
Protocol I'm using is RDP and Host is local IP of the machine I am trying to connect to.
On Windows I have allowed people to remotely connect to that machine.
What protocol should I use ? What other settings I have to do?
My OS is Ubuntu (12.04)
12.04 networking remote-desktop
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
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I am trying to connect to Remote machine (Windows 7 OS) using Remote Desktop Viewer.
Protocol I'm using is RDP and Host is local IP of the machine I am trying to connect to.
On Windows I have allowed people to remotely connect to that machine.
What protocol should I use ? What other settings I have to do?
My OS is Ubuntu (12.04)
12.04 networking remote-desktop
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
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bumped to the homepage by Community♦ 8 hours ago
This question has answers that may be good or bad; the system has marked it active so that they can be reviewed.
i have added an answer, check it.
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:08
Edited my previous answer
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:26
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I am trying to connect to Remote machine (Windows 7 OS) using Remote Desktop Viewer.
Protocol I'm using is RDP and Host is local IP of the machine I am trying to connect to.
On Windows I have allowed people to remotely connect to that machine.
What protocol should I use ? What other settings I have to do?
My OS is Ubuntu (12.04)
12.04 networking remote-desktop
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
103114
I am trying to connect to Remote machine (Windows 7 OS) using Remote Desktop Viewer.
Protocol I'm using is RDP and Host is local IP of the machine I am trying to connect to.
On Windows I have allowed people to remotely connect to that machine.
What protocol should I use ? What other settings I have to do?
My OS is Ubuntu (12.04)
12.04 networking remote-desktop
12.04 networking remote-desktop
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
103114
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
103114
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
103114
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
103114
asked Mar 4 '15 at 9:43
CoderaemonCoderaemon
103114
103114
bumped to the homepage by Community♦ 8 hours ago
This question has answers that may be good or bad; the system has marked it active so that they can be reviewed.
bumped to the homepage by Community♦ 8 hours ago
This question has answers that may be good or bad; the system has marked it active so that they can be reviewed.
i have added an answer, check it.
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:08
Edited my previous answer
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:26
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i have added an answer, check it.
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:08
Edited my previous answer
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:26
i have added an answer, check it.
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:08
i have added an answer, check it.
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:08
Edited my previous answer
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:26
Edited my previous answer
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:26
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The answer to your problems is remmina (GUI) or rdesktop (Terminal command which opens GUI after) before that You should install this package.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
1
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
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show 6 more comments
Follow these steps for connecting to Windows from Ubuntu
Step 1: Enable Remote Desktop Connections on your Windows PC
In order to allow other computers to connect remotely to your Windows computer, you need to enable the Remote Desktop Connection feature. To learn how to do this, read this tutorial: How to Enable Remote Desktop Connections in Windows 7 & Windows 8.
Step 2: Install a Remote Desktop Client - Our Choice: Remmina Remote Desktop Client
By default, Ubuntu doesn’t come with a remote desktop client which supports the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) used by Windows operating systems for remote connections. You need to install one of the clients available in the Ubuntu Software Center.
First, start the Ubuntu Software Center.
Search for the words "remote desktop" and you will be shown all the available applications.
We preferred to choose Remmina Remote Desktop Client, a client which is very appreciated by the user community and is, at the same time, very versatile and easy to use.
To get it installed, select it and click Install.
You are asked for your password. Type it and click Authenticate.
NOTE: please keep in mind that, in order to install software, your user account needs to have administrative permissions. If you are set as a standard user account, you cannot install any software.
Now the application is downloaded and installed. Wait until the procedure ends.
Step 3: Configure the Remote Desktop Session
It is time to start the Remmina Remote Desktop Client. Search your Ubuntu PC using the word remmina and click on the appropriate search result.
Click the "Create a new remote desktop file" button.
The Remote Desktop Preference window is opened. Here you can configure the remote connection you want to establish.
In the Profile section, type the name you want to use for the connection. It can be anything you wish. Then, in the Basic tab, complete the IP address of the Windows computer in the Server field. Then, type the username and password you want to use to connect to the Windows computer. Be aware that the user needs to exist on the Windows computer. If you are using a Microsoft account on your Windows 8 PC, it is OK to fill in your email address and password.
You can also set the Resolution you want to use for the connection and the Color depth.
NOTE: Selecting a larger desktop resolution and color depth can impact the performance of your remote desktop session. If you experience lag when connected to a remote desktop, try reducing the color depth or resolution.
If you want to share a folder existing on your Ubuntu computer with the Windows computer, simply check the Share folder box and select the folder you want to share from Ubuntu.
Also, for more advanced settings, go to the Advanced tab. There you can turn the sound on or off, share printers, disable clipboard synchronisation, etc.
Once you are done making all the settings, click the Connect button. When connecting for the first time, a new certificate is created for the remote connection. Click OK to accept it.
After a while, if the Windows computer is turned on and connected to the same network, you should be connected to it.
Once you close the remote connection, Remmina Remote Desktop Client automatically saves it so that you will be able to reconnect at a later time, with a simple click on the connection name.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
|
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
The answer to your problems is remmina (GUI) or rdesktop (Terminal command which opens GUI after) before that You should install this package.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
1
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
|
show 6 more comments
The answer to your problems is remmina (GUI) or rdesktop (Terminal command which opens GUI after) before that You should install this package.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
1
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
|
show 6 more comments
The answer to your problems is remmina (GUI) or rdesktop (Terminal command which opens GUI after) before that You should install this package.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
The answer to your problems is remmina (GUI) or rdesktop (Terminal command which opens GUI after) before that You should install this package.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
answered Mar 4 '15 at 11:29
PKumarPKumar
1,526712
1,526712
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
1
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
|
show 6 more comments
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
1
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200 ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
nikhil@ashu-Inspiron-1525:/$ rdesktop 10.120.10.200 ERROR: 10.120.10.200: unable to connect– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:40
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
are you able to ping to that IP ?
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:41
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
Though I am able to ping this IP
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 11:44
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
may be the port is block check for the open port number 3389 use this command -- $ telnet 10.120.10.200 3389
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:46
1
1
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
port is not open check for firewall on windows host or RDP is not enable
– PKumar
Mar 4 '15 at 11:57
|
show 6 more comments
Follow these steps for connecting to Windows from Ubuntu
Step 1: Enable Remote Desktop Connections on your Windows PC
In order to allow other computers to connect remotely to your Windows computer, you need to enable the Remote Desktop Connection feature. To learn how to do this, read this tutorial: How to Enable Remote Desktop Connections in Windows 7 & Windows 8.
Step 2: Install a Remote Desktop Client - Our Choice: Remmina Remote Desktop Client
By default, Ubuntu doesn’t come with a remote desktop client which supports the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) used by Windows operating systems for remote connections. You need to install one of the clients available in the Ubuntu Software Center.
First, start the Ubuntu Software Center.
Search for the words "remote desktop" and you will be shown all the available applications.
We preferred to choose Remmina Remote Desktop Client, a client which is very appreciated by the user community and is, at the same time, very versatile and easy to use.
To get it installed, select it and click Install.
You are asked for your password. Type it and click Authenticate.
NOTE: please keep in mind that, in order to install software, your user account needs to have administrative permissions. If you are set as a standard user account, you cannot install any software.
Now the application is downloaded and installed. Wait until the procedure ends.
Step 3: Configure the Remote Desktop Session
It is time to start the Remmina Remote Desktop Client. Search your Ubuntu PC using the word remmina and click on the appropriate search result.
Click the "Create a new remote desktop file" button.
The Remote Desktop Preference window is opened. Here you can configure the remote connection you want to establish.
In the Profile section, type the name you want to use for the connection. It can be anything you wish. Then, in the Basic tab, complete the IP address of the Windows computer in the Server field. Then, type the username and password you want to use to connect to the Windows computer. Be aware that the user needs to exist on the Windows computer. If you are using a Microsoft account on your Windows 8 PC, it is OK to fill in your email address and password.
You can also set the Resolution you want to use for the connection and the Color depth.
NOTE: Selecting a larger desktop resolution and color depth can impact the performance of your remote desktop session. If you experience lag when connected to a remote desktop, try reducing the color depth or resolution.
If you want to share a folder existing on your Ubuntu computer with the Windows computer, simply check the Share folder box and select the folder you want to share from Ubuntu.
Also, for more advanced settings, go to the Advanced tab. There you can turn the sound on or off, share printers, disable clipboard synchronisation, etc.
Once you are done making all the settings, click the Connect button. When connecting for the first time, a new certificate is created for the remote connection. Click OK to accept it.
After a while, if the Windows computer is turned on and connected to the same network, you should be connected to it.
Once you close the remote connection, Remmina Remote Desktop Client automatically saves it so that you will be able to reconnect at a later time, with a simple click on the connection name.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
|
Follow these steps for connecting to Windows from Ubuntu
Step 1: Enable Remote Desktop Connections on your Windows PC
In order to allow other computers to connect remotely to your Windows computer, you need to enable the Remote Desktop Connection feature. To learn how to do this, read this tutorial: How to Enable Remote Desktop Connections in Windows 7 & Windows 8.
Step 2: Install a Remote Desktop Client - Our Choice: Remmina Remote Desktop Client
By default, Ubuntu doesn’t come with a remote desktop client which supports the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) used by Windows operating systems for remote connections. You need to install one of the clients available in the Ubuntu Software Center.
First, start the Ubuntu Software Center.
Search for the words "remote desktop" and you will be shown all the available applications.
We preferred to choose Remmina Remote Desktop Client, a client which is very appreciated by the user community and is, at the same time, very versatile and easy to use.
To get it installed, select it and click Install.
You are asked for your password. Type it and click Authenticate.
NOTE: please keep in mind that, in order to install software, your user account needs to have administrative permissions. If you are set as a standard user account, you cannot install any software.
Now the application is downloaded and installed. Wait until the procedure ends.
Step 3: Configure the Remote Desktop Session
It is time to start the Remmina Remote Desktop Client. Search your Ubuntu PC using the word remmina and click on the appropriate search result.
Click the "Create a new remote desktop file" button.
The Remote Desktop Preference window is opened. Here you can configure the remote connection you want to establish.
In the Profile section, type the name you want to use for the connection. It can be anything you wish. Then, in the Basic tab, complete the IP address of the Windows computer in the Server field. Then, type the username and password you want to use to connect to the Windows computer. Be aware that the user needs to exist on the Windows computer. If you are using a Microsoft account on your Windows 8 PC, it is OK to fill in your email address and password.
You can also set the Resolution you want to use for the connection and the Color depth.
NOTE: Selecting a larger desktop resolution and color depth can impact the performance of your remote desktop session. If you experience lag when connected to a remote desktop, try reducing the color depth or resolution.
If you want to share a folder existing on your Ubuntu computer with the Windows computer, simply check the Share folder box and select the folder you want to share from Ubuntu.
Also, for more advanced settings, go to the Advanced tab. There you can turn the sound on or off, share printers, disable clipboard synchronisation, etc.
Once you are done making all the settings, click the Connect button. When connecting for the first time, a new certificate is created for the remote connection. Click OK to accept it.
After a while, if the Windows computer is turned on and connected to the same network, you should be connected to it.
Once you close the remote connection, Remmina Remote Desktop Client automatically saves it so that you will be able to reconnect at a later time, with a simple click on the connection name.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
|
Follow these steps for connecting to Windows from Ubuntu
Step 1: Enable Remote Desktop Connections on your Windows PC
In order to allow other computers to connect remotely to your Windows computer, you need to enable the Remote Desktop Connection feature. To learn how to do this, read this tutorial: How to Enable Remote Desktop Connections in Windows 7 & Windows 8.
Step 2: Install a Remote Desktop Client - Our Choice: Remmina Remote Desktop Client
By default, Ubuntu doesn’t come with a remote desktop client which supports the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) used by Windows operating systems for remote connections. You need to install one of the clients available in the Ubuntu Software Center.
First, start the Ubuntu Software Center.
Search for the words "remote desktop" and you will be shown all the available applications.
We preferred to choose Remmina Remote Desktop Client, a client which is very appreciated by the user community and is, at the same time, very versatile and easy to use.
To get it installed, select it and click Install.
You are asked for your password. Type it and click Authenticate.
NOTE: please keep in mind that, in order to install software, your user account needs to have administrative permissions. If you are set as a standard user account, you cannot install any software.
Now the application is downloaded and installed. Wait until the procedure ends.
Step 3: Configure the Remote Desktop Session
It is time to start the Remmina Remote Desktop Client. Search your Ubuntu PC using the word remmina and click on the appropriate search result.
Click the "Create a new remote desktop file" button.
The Remote Desktop Preference window is opened. Here you can configure the remote connection you want to establish.
In the Profile section, type the name you want to use for the connection. It can be anything you wish. Then, in the Basic tab, complete the IP address of the Windows computer in the Server field. Then, type the username and password you want to use to connect to the Windows computer. Be aware that the user needs to exist on the Windows computer. If you are using a Microsoft account on your Windows 8 PC, it is OK to fill in your email address and password.
You can also set the Resolution you want to use for the connection and the Color depth.
NOTE: Selecting a larger desktop resolution and color depth can impact the performance of your remote desktop session. If you experience lag when connected to a remote desktop, try reducing the color depth or resolution.
If you want to share a folder existing on your Ubuntu computer with the Windows computer, simply check the Share folder box and select the folder you want to share from Ubuntu.
Also, for more advanced settings, go to the Advanced tab. There you can turn the sound on or off, share printers, disable clipboard synchronisation, etc.
Once you are done making all the settings, click the Connect button. When connecting for the first time, a new certificate is created for the remote connection. Click OK to accept it.
After a while, if the Windows computer is turned on and connected to the same network, you should be connected to it.
Once you close the remote connection, Remmina Remote Desktop Client automatically saves it so that you will be able to reconnect at a later time, with a simple click on the connection name.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
Follow these steps for connecting to Windows from Ubuntu
Step 1: Enable Remote Desktop Connections on your Windows PC
In order to allow other computers to connect remotely to your Windows computer, you need to enable the Remote Desktop Connection feature. To learn how to do this, read this tutorial: How to Enable Remote Desktop Connections in Windows 7 & Windows 8.
Step 2: Install a Remote Desktop Client - Our Choice: Remmina Remote Desktop Client
By default, Ubuntu doesn’t come with a remote desktop client which supports the Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) used by Windows operating systems for remote connections. You need to install one of the clients available in the Ubuntu Software Center.
First, start the Ubuntu Software Center.
Search for the words "remote desktop" and you will be shown all the available applications.
We preferred to choose Remmina Remote Desktop Client, a client which is very appreciated by the user community and is, at the same time, very versatile and easy to use.
To get it installed, select it and click Install.
You are asked for your password. Type it and click Authenticate.
NOTE: please keep in mind that, in order to install software, your user account needs to have administrative permissions. If you are set as a standard user account, you cannot install any software.
Now the application is downloaded and installed. Wait until the procedure ends.
Step 3: Configure the Remote Desktop Session
It is time to start the Remmina Remote Desktop Client. Search your Ubuntu PC using the word remmina and click on the appropriate search result.
Click the "Create a new remote desktop file" button.
The Remote Desktop Preference window is opened. Here you can configure the remote connection you want to establish.
In the Profile section, type the name you want to use for the connection. It can be anything you wish. Then, in the Basic tab, complete the IP address of the Windows computer in the Server field. Then, type the username and password you want to use to connect to the Windows computer. Be aware that the user needs to exist on the Windows computer. If you are using a Microsoft account on your Windows 8 PC, it is OK to fill in your email address and password.
You can also set the Resolution you want to use for the connection and the Color depth.
NOTE: Selecting a larger desktop resolution and color depth can impact the performance of your remote desktop session. If you experience lag when connected to a remote desktop, try reducing the color depth or resolution.
If you want to share a folder existing on your Ubuntu computer with the Windows computer, simply check the Share folder box and select the folder you want to share from Ubuntu.
Also, for more advanced settings, go to the Advanced tab. There you can turn the sound on or off, share printers, disable clipboard synchronisation, etc.
Once you are done making all the settings, click the Connect button. When connecting for the first time, a new certificate is created for the remote connection. Click OK to accept it.
After a while, if the Windows computer is turned on and connected to the same network, you should be connected to it.
Once you close the remote connection, Remmina Remote Desktop Client automatically saves it so that you will be able to reconnect at a later time, with a simple click on the connection name.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
edited Mar 4 '15 at 12:23
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
answered Mar 4 '15 at 12:07
Faizan Akram DarFaizan Akram Dar
3,84311629
3,84311629
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
|
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
I am trying to connect to Windows from Ubuntu not Vice-versa
– Coderaemon
Mar 4 '15 at 12:10
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
Edited my answer, check the new answer for "Ubuntu to Windows"
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:24
|
i have added an answer, check it.
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:08
Edited my previous answer
– Faizan Akram Dar
Mar 4 '15 at 12:26