“My boss was furious with me and I have been fired” vs. “My boss was furious with me and I was fired”...

What is a 'Key' in computer science?

Retract an already submitted recommendation letter (written for an undergrad student)

Putting Ant-Man on house arrest

Co-worker works way more than he should

What is the best way to deal with NPC-NPC combat?

Why isn't everyone flabbergasted about Bran's "gift"?

Is Diceware more secure than a long passphrase?

Mistake in years of experience in resume?

"Rubric" as meaning "signature" or "personal mark" -- is this accepted usage?

Could Neutrino technically as side-effect, incentivize centralization of the bitcoin network?

Could moose/elk survive in the Amazon forest?

Reattaching fallen shelf to wall?

How do I check if a string is entirely made of the same substring?

What do you call the part of a novel that is not dialog?

Does Feeblemind produce an ongoing magical effect that can be dispelled?

My bank got bought out, am I now going to have to start filing tax returns in a different state?

Is Bran literally the world's memory?

Check if a string is entirely made of the same substring

How long after the last departure shall the airport stay open for an emergency return?

How to translate "red flag" into Spanish?

Why didn't the Space Shuttle bounce back into space as many times as possible so as to lose a lot of kinetic energy up there?

How to use @AuraEnabled base class method in Lightning Component?

PIC mathematical operations weird problem

Trumpet valves, lengths, and pitch



“My boss was furious with me and I have been fired” vs. “My boss was furious with me and I was fired”



Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Contributor's Guide to English Language Learnershad surrendered / surrendered“My car was breakdown” / “My car had been breakdown”Present Perfect Tense AskingHave gone or Have beenA question about 'must have been someone'Which of these two had been VS. Which of these two was?What is the difference? “had been” vs “was”“Meet my boss” or “meet with my boss”?Was vs Has beenWhich one is correct 'Been' or 'have been' to use in the beginning of a sentence?





.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__bot-mid-leaderboard:empty{ margin-bottom:0;
}







7















I have a question and I hope you can help me. I've been learning English for many years but I'm still struggling with the difference between simple past and present perfect.



For example this sentence here:



"By the time I got to the office, the meeting (begin, already) had already begun without me. My boss (be) was furious with me and I (be) was fired."



Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?



I lately read an article in the business insider with the topic "What to do right after you've been fired?". Could I say "What to do right after you got fired?" too?



My native language is German and for me both sounds perfectly fine when I just don't seem to get the difference. Are both sentences right and if so what exactly is the difference?



Help would be very much appreciated.



Thank you!










share|improve this question









New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
















  • 1





    Did you mean "What to do right after you got fired" ?

    – jonathanjo
    12 hours ago








  • 1





    Yes indeed that’s what I meant. The „t“ probably got lost. :D

    – Heda
    10 hours ago











  • What to do right after you get fired ( advice for a future eventuality, in general) or what did you do right after you got fired ( a specific person in the past)

    – anouk
    10 hours ago




















7















I have a question and I hope you can help me. I've been learning English for many years but I'm still struggling with the difference between simple past and present perfect.



For example this sentence here:



"By the time I got to the office, the meeting (begin, already) had already begun without me. My boss (be) was furious with me and I (be) was fired."



Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?



I lately read an article in the business insider with the topic "What to do right after you've been fired?". Could I say "What to do right after you got fired?" too?



My native language is German and for me both sounds perfectly fine when I just don't seem to get the difference. Are both sentences right and if so what exactly is the difference?



Help would be very much appreciated.



Thank you!










share|improve this question









New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.
















  • 1





    Did you mean "What to do right after you got fired" ?

    – jonathanjo
    12 hours ago








  • 1





    Yes indeed that’s what I meant. The „t“ probably got lost. :D

    – Heda
    10 hours ago











  • What to do right after you get fired ( advice for a future eventuality, in general) or what did you do right after you got fired ( a specific person in the past)

    – anouk
    10 hours ago
















7












7








7


1






I have a question and I hope you can help me. I've been learning English for many years but I'm still struggling with the difference between simple past and present perfect.



For example this sentence here:



"By the time I got to the office, the meeting (begin, already) had already begun without me. My boss (be) was furious with me and I (be) was fired."



Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?



I lately read an article in the business insider with the topic "What to do right after you've been fired?". Could I say "What to do right after you got fired?" too?



My native language is German and for me both sounds perfectly fine when I just don't seem to get the difference. Are both sentences right and if so what exactly is the difference?



Help would be very much appreciated.



Thank you!










share|improve this question









New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.












I have a question and I hope you can help me. I've been learning English for many years but I'm still struggling with the difference between simple past and present perfect.



For example this sentence here:



"By the time I got to the office, the meeting (begin, already) had already begun without me. My boss (be) was furious with me and I (be) was fired."



Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?



I lately read an article in the business insider with the topic "What to do right after you've been fired?". Could I say "What to do right after you got fired?" too?



My native language is German and for me both sounds perfectly fine when I just don't seem to get the difference. Are both sentences right and if so what exactly is the difference?



Help would be very much appreciated.



Thank you!







grammar past-tense perfect-constructions






share|improve this question









New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question









New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 5 hours ago









Alsee

1933




1933






New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked 14 hours ago









HedaHeda

384




384




New contributor




Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






Heda is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.








  • 1





    Did you mean "What to do right after you got fired" ?

    – jonathanjo
    12 hours ago








  • 1





    Yes indeed that’s what I meant. The „t“ probably got lost. :D

    – Heda
    10 hours ago











  • What to do right after you get fired ( advice for a future eventuality, in general) or what did you do right after you got fired ( a specific person in the past)

    – anouk
    10 hours ago
















  • 1





    Did you mean "What to do right after you got fired" ?

    – jonathanjo
    12 hours ago








  • 1





    Yes indeed that’s what I meant. The „t“ probably got lost. :D

    – Heda
    10 hours ago











  • What to do right after you get fired ( advice for a future eventuality, in general) or what did you do right after you got fired ( a specific person in the past)

    – anouk
    10 hours ago










1




1





Did you mean "What to do right after you got fired" ?

– jonathanjo
12 hours ago







Did you mean "What to do right after you got fired" ?

– jonathanjo
12 hours ago






1




1





Yes indeed that’s what I meant. The „t“ probably got lost. :D

– Heda
10 hours ago





Yes indeed that’s what I meant. The „t“ probably got lost. :D

– Heda
10 hours ago













What to do right after you get fired ( advice for a future eventuality, in general) or what did you do right after you got fired ( a specific person in the past)

– anouk
10 hours ago







What to do right after you get fired ( advice for a future eventuality, in general) or what did you do right after you got fired ( a specific person in the past)

– anouk
10 hours ago












5 Answers
5






active

oldest

votes


















1














If the speaker were talking to someone soon after the firing, the "was...have been" construction would be appropriate.



The "have been" verb is in the present perfect progressive tense, which describes an action that began in the past and continues in the present, and may continue in the future. The speaker has been fired, so that is almost certainly going to continue!



This usage is right in the recent-firing case because the status of being fired and accepting it is still on the speaker's mind as being processed but isn't over yet.



"Was fired" is a usage that says, yes, the person got fired at that past point, and they've processed that and have moved on.



Compare "I have been dumped by my paramour" (still dealing with it) and "I was dumped" (that's in my past now and I've handled it).






share|improve this answer































    10














    The first thing to realise is that in most cases, whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice: it depends on how you are choosing to relate the events to the present circumstances.



    If you choose to use the perfect, you are expressing that the event which happened had some relevance to the present time. What that relevance is depends on many things: it might be that the event was very recent; it might be that it created a state which is still continuing; it might be that it is seen as part of a series of events which are still continuing; it might be that it has consequences now.



    In this case, if you choose the present perfect, you are saying that being fired is relevant to the present: probably that you are in the state of having been fired, as Davo says. In this case "my boss was angry with me and I've been fired" probably means that this is very recent - today or maybe yesterday. If it was longer ago, I would have expected "and I was fired". But not necessarily: if you are choosing to emphasise the fact that you are still feeling the consequences of the firing, you might choose "I have been fired" even if it was much longer ago.






    share|improve this answer
























    • Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

      – ruakh
      9 hours ago













    • @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

      – Colin Fine
      5 hours ago











    • I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

      – ruakh
      4 hours ago



















    6















    Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?




    That's an error, but it's not a grammatical error, more of a style error. "My boss was furious" is simple past. "I have been fired" is present perfect. Present perfect is a mixture of past and present; it discusses things that happened in the past, but does so with respect to the current situation. "I have been fired" means "My current state is fired". While the firing happened in the past, the focus is on the current state of unemployment. Thus, this breaks up the connection between the two clauses. "My boss was furious with me and I was fired" presents the two clauses as two connected facts: my boss was furious -> my firing resulted. "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired" breaks up the flow and makes these sound like two random facts you've decided to put in one sentence, rather than causally related.




    Could I say "What to do right after you go fired?" too?




    No, "go" can't be used that way. You can say "What to do right after you get fired?" or "What to do right after you are fired?"



    You might want to post this on the German SE to get the perspective of people fluent in both languages as to how they compare.






    share|improve this answer
























    • Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

      – rexkogitans
      8 hours ago



















    4














    Both are fine.




    ...and I was fired.




    This explains what happened in the past - you were fired.




    ...and I have been fired.




    This explains your current situation - you are in a state of having been fired.






    share|improve this answer
























    • I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

      – eyeballfrog
      11 hours ago



















    1














    Your sentence is set in the past "By the time I got to the office...". That is why the past tense is used, I think. There is also a sequence of events:
    1.the meeting began 2.you got there late 3.boss was furious 4.you got fired. Past simple is also used for sequence in the past.



    "I have been fired" could be used to announce this recent fact (announcement of news) which is on your mind now because it affects the present = you have to look for a new job.



    "when you have been fired" is a passive sentence. Someone else has fired you, you have been fired by your boss.






    share|improve this answer


























      Your Answer








      StackExchange.ready(function() {
      var channelOptions = {
      tags: "".split(" "),
      id: "481"
      };
      initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

      StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
      // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
      if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
      StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
      createEditor();
      });
      }
      else {
      createEditor();
      }
      });

      function createEditor() {
      StackExchange.prepareEditor({
      heartbeatType: 'answer',
      autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
      convertImagesToLinks: false,
      noModals: true,
      showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
      reputationToPostImages: null,
      bindNavPrevention: true,
      postfix: "",
      imageUploader: {
      brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
      contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
      allowUrls: true
      },
      noCode: true, onDemand: true,
      discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
      ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
      });


      }
      });






      Heda is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










      draft saved

      draft discarded


















      StackExchange.ready(
      function () {
      StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fell.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f207883%2fmy-boss-was-furious-with-me-and-i-have-been-fired-vs-my-boss-was-furious-wit%23new-answer', 'question_page');
      }
      );

      Post as a guest















      Required, but never shown

























      5 Answers
      5






      active

      oldest

      votes








      5 Answers
      5






      active

      oldest

      votes









      active

      oldest

      votes






      active

      oldest

      votes









      1














      If the speaker were talking to someone soon after the firing, the "was...have been" construction would be appropriate.



      The "have been" verb is in the present perfect progressive tense, which describes an action that began in the past and continues in the present, and may continue in the future. The speaker has been fired, so that is almost certainly going to continue!



      This usage is right in the recent-firing case because the status of being fired and accepting it is still on the speaker's mind as being processed but isn't over yet.



      "Was fired" is a usage that says, yes, the person got fired at that past point, and they've processed that and have moved on.



      Compare "I have been dumped by my paramour" (still dealing with it) and "I was dumped" (that's in my past now and I've handled it).






      share|improve this answer




























        1














        If the speaker were talking to someone soon after the firing, the "was...have been" construction would be appropriate.



        The "have been" verb is in the present perfect progressive tense, which describes an action that began in the past and continues in the present, and may continue in the future. The speaker has been fired, so that is almost certainly going to continue!



        This usage is right in the recent-firing case because the status of being fired and accepting it is still on the speaker's mind as being processed but isn't over yet.



        "Was fired" is a usage that says, yes, the person got fired at that past point, and they've processed that and have moved on.



        Compare "I have been dumped by my paramour" (still dealing with it) and "I was dumped" (that's in my past now and I've handled it).






        share|improve this answer


























          1












          1








          1







          If the speaker were talking to someone soon after the firing, the "was...have been" construction would be appropriate.



          The "have been" verb is in the present perfect progressive tense, which describes an action that began in the past and continues in the present, and may continue in the future. The speaker has been fired, so that is almost certainly going to continue!



          This usage is right in the recent-firing case because the status of being fired and accepting it is still on the speaker's mind as being processed but isn't over yet.



          "Was fired" is a usage that says, yes, the person got fired at that past point, and they've processed that and have moved on.



          Compare "I have been dumped by my paramour" (still dealing with it) and "I was dumped" (that's in my past now and I've handled it).






          share|improve this answer













          If the speaker were talking to someone soon after the firing, the "was...have been" construction would be appropriate.



          The "have been" verb is in the present perfect progressive tense, which describes an action that began in the past and continues in the present, and may continue in the future. The speaker has been fired, so that is almost certainly going to continue!



          This usage is right in the recent-firing case because the status of being fired and accepting it is still on the speaker's mind as being processed but isn't over yet.



          "Was fired" is a usage that says, yes, the person got fired at that past point, and they've processed that and have moved on.



          Compare "I have been dumped by my paramour" (still dealing with it) and "I was dumped" (that's in my past now and I've handled it).







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer










          answered 6 hours ago









          Joe McMahonJoe McMahon

          33116




          33116

























              10














              The first thing to realise is that in most cases, whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice: it depends on how you are choosing to relate the events to the present circumstances.



              If you choose to use the perfect, you are expressing that the event which happened had some relevance to the present time. What that relevance is depends on many things: it might be that the event was very recent; it might be that it created a state which is still continuing; it might be that it is seen as part of a series of events which are still continuing; it might be that it has consequences now.



              In this case, if you choose the present perfect, you are saying that being fired is relevant to the present: probably that you are in the state of having been fired, as Davo says. In this case "my boss was angry with me and I've been fired" probably means that this is very recent - today or maybe yesterday. If it was longer ago, I would have expected "and I was fired". But not necessarily: if you are choosing to emphasise the fact that you are still feeling the consequences of the firing, you might choose "I have been fired" even if it was much longer ago.






              share|improve this answer
























              • Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

                – ruakh
                9 hours ago













              • @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

                – Colin Fine
                5 hours ago











              • I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

                – ruakh
                4 hours ago
















              10














              The first thing to realise is that in most cases, whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice: it depends on how you are choosing to relate the events to the present circumstances.



              If you choose to use the perfect, you are expressing that the event which happened had some relevance to the present time. What that relevance is depends on many things: it might be that the event was very recent; it might be that it created a state which is still continuing; it might be that it is seen as part of a series of events which are still continuing; it might be that it has consequences now.



              In this case, if you choose the present perfect, you are saying that being fired is relevant to the present: probably that you are in the state of having been fired, as Davo says. In this case "my boss was angry with me and I've been fired" probably means that this is very recent - today or maybe yesterday. If it was longer ago, I would have expected "and I was fired". But not necessarily: if you are choosing to emphasise the fact that you are still feeling the consequences of the firing, you might choose "I have been fired" even if it was much longer ago.






              share|improve this answer
























              • Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

                – ruakh
                9 hours ago













              • @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

                – Colin Fine
                5 hours ago











              • I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

                – ruakh
                4 hours ago














              10












              10








              10







              The first thing to realise is that in most cases, whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice: it depends on how you are choosing to relate the events to the present circumstances.



              If you choose to use the perfect, you are expressing that the event which happened had some relevance to the present time. What that relevance is depends on many things: it might be that the event was very recent; it might be that it created a state which is still continuing; it might be that it is seen as part of a series of events which are still continuing; it might be that it has consequences now.



              In this case, if you choose the present perfect, you are saying that being fired is relevant to the present: probably that you are in the state of having been fired, as Davo says. In this case "my boss was angry with me and I've been fired" probably means that this is very recent - today or maybe yesterday. If it was longer ago, I would have expected "and I was fired". But not necessarily: if you are choosing to emphasise the fact that you are still feeling the consequences of the firing, you might choose "I have been fired" even if it was much longer ago.






              share|improve this answer













              The first thing to realise is that in most cases, whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice: it depends on how you are choosing to relate the events to the present circumstances.



              If you choose to use the perfect, you are expressing that the event which happened had some relevance to the present time. What that relevance is depends on many things: it might be that the event was very recent; it might be that it created a state which is still continuing; it might be that it is seen as part of a series of events which are still continuing; it might be that it has consequences now.



              In this case, if you choose the present perfect, you are saying that being fired is relevant to the present: probably that you are in the state of having been fired, as Davo says. In this case "my boss was angry with me and I've been fired" probably means that this is very recent - today or maybe yesterday. If it was longer ago, I would have expected "and I was fired". But not necessarily: if you are choosing to emphasise the fact that you are still feeling the consequences of the firing, you might choose "I have been fired" even if it was much longer ago.







              share|improve this answer












              share|improve this answer



              share|improve this answer










              answered 12 hours ago









              Colin FineColin Fine

              32.3k24562




              32.3k24562













              • Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

                – ruakh
                9 hours ago













              • @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

                – Colin Fine
                5 hours ago











              • I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

                – ruakh
                4 hours ago



















              • Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

                – ruakh
                9 hours ago













              • @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

                – Colin Fine
                5 hours ago











              • I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

                – ruakh
                4 hours ago

















              Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

              – ruakh
              9 hours ago







              Re: "whether or not to use the present perfect is a free choice": I would avoid the term free in this context, because it suggests that the two versions are equivalent. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_variation.) As you go on to explain, they are not: they differ in how they relate the events to the present circumstances. In some cases, the difference is extreme enough to imply materially different facts.

              – ruakh
              9 hours ago















              @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

              – Colin Fine
              5 hours ago





              @ruakh: my point is that in most cases (not all) you can describe the same objective events either way.

              – Colin Fine
              5 hours ago













              I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

              – ruakh
              4 hours ago





              I'm not disagreeing with your point, I'm just suggesting that you not use the word "free" this way.

              – ruakh
              4 hours ago











              6















              Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?




              That's an error, but it's not a grammatical error, more of a style error. "My boss was furious" is simple past. "I have been fired" is present perfect. Present perfect is a mixture of past and present; it discusses things that happened in the past, but does so with respect to the current situation. "I have been fired" means "My current state is fired". While the firing happened in the past, the focus is on the current state of unemployment. Thus, this breaks up the connection between the two clauses. "My boss was furious with me and I was fired" presents the two clauses as two connected facts: my boss was furious -> my firing resulted. "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired" breaks up the flow and makes these sound like two random facts you've decided to put in one sentence, rather than causally related.




              Could I say "What to do right after you go fired?" too?




              No, "go" can't be used that way. You can say "What to do right after you get fired?" or "What to do right after you are fired?"



              You might want to post this on the German SE to get the perspective of people fluent in both languages as to how they compare.






              share|improve this answer
























              • Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

                – rexkogitans
                8 hours ago
















              6















              Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?




              That's an error, but it's not a grammatical error, more of a style error. "My boss was furious" is simple past. "I have been fired" is present perfect. Present perfect is a mixture of past and present; it discusses things that happened in the past, but does so with respect to the current situation. "I have been fired" means "My current state is fired". While the firing happened in the past, the focus is on the current state of unemployment. Thus, this breaks up the connection between the two clauses. "My boss was furious with me and I was fired" presents the two clauses as two connected facts: my boss was furious -> my firing resulted. "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired" breaks up the flow and makes these sound like two random facts you've decided to put in one sentence, rather than causally related.




              Could I say "What to do right after you go fired?" too?




              No, "go" can't be used that way. You can say "What to do right after you get fired?" or "What to do right after you are fired?"



              You might want to post this on the German SE to get the perspective of people fluent in both languages as to how they compare.






              share|improve this answer
























              • Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

                – rexkogitans
                8 hours ago














              6












              6








              6








              Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?




              That's an error, but it's not a grammatical error, more of a style error. "My boss was furious" is simple past. "I have been fired" is present perfect. Present perfect is a mixture of past and present; it discusses things that happened in the past, but does so with respect to the current situation. "I have been fired" means "My current state is fired". While the firing happened in the past, the focus is on the current state of unemployment. Thus, this breaks up the connection between the two clauses. "My boss was furious with me and I was fired" presents the two clauses as two connected facts: my boss was furious -> my firing resulted. "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired" breaks up the flow and makes these sound like two random facts you've decided to put in one sentence, rather than causally related.




              Could I say "What to do right after you go fired?" too?




              No, "go" can't be used that way. You can say "What to do right after you get fired?" or "What to do right after you are fired?"



              You might want to post this on the German SE to get the perspective of people fluent in both languages as to how they compare.






              share|improve this answer














              Can I also say "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired."?




              That's an error, but it's not a grammatical error, more of a style error. "My boss was furious" is simple past. "I have been fired" is present perfect. Present perfect is a mixture of past and present; it discusses things that happened in the past, but does so with respect to the current situation. "I have been fired" means "My current state is fired". While the firing happened in the past, the focus is on the current state of unemployment. Thus, this breaks up the connection between the two clauses. "My boss was furious with me and I was fired" presents the two clauses as two connected facts: my boss was furious -> my firing resulted. "My boss was furious with me and I have been fired" breaks up the flow and makes these sound like two random facts you've decided to put in one sentence, rather than causally related.




              Could I say "What to do right after you go fired?" too?




              No, "go" can't be used that way. You can say "What to do right after you get fired?" or "What to do right after you are fired?"



              You might want to post this on the German SE to get the perspective of people fluent in both languages as to how they compare.







              share|improve this answer












              share|improve this answer



              share|improve this answer










              answered 12 hours ago









              AcccumulationAcccumulation

              1,82517




              1,82517













              • Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

                – rexkogitans
                8 hours ago



















              • Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

                – rexkogitans
                8 hours ago

















              Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

              – rexkogitans
              8 hours ago





              Just to add concerning German language. No, also in standard German the use of Vergangenheit would be an error due to the same reason. It is just that Bavarian dialects do not have another choice, because Mitvergangenheit does not really exist there.

              – rexkogitans
              8 hours ago











              4














              Both are fine.




              ...and I was fired.




              This explains what happened in the past - you were fired.




              ...and I have been fired.




              This explains your current situation - you are in a state of having been fired.






              share|improve this answer
























              • I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

                – eyeballfrog
                11 hours ago
















              4














              Both are fine.




              ...and I was fired.




              This explains what happened in the past - you were fired.




              ...and I have been fired.




              This explains your current situation - you are in a state of having been fired.






              share|improve this answer
























              • I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

                – eyeballfrog
                11 hours ago














              4












              4








              4







              Both are fine.




              ...and I was fired.




              This explains what happened in the past - you were fired.




              ...and I have been fired.




              This explains your current situation - you are in a state of having been fired.






              share|improve this answer













              Both are fine.




              ...and I was fired.




              This explains what happened in the past - you were fired.




              ...and I have been fired.




              This explains your current situation - you are in a state of having been fired.







              share|improve this answer












              share|improve this answer



              share|improve this answer










              answered 13 hours ago









              DavoDavo

              3,3231929




              3,3231929













              • I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

                – eyeballfrog
                11 hours ago



















              • I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

                – eyeballfrog
                11 hours ago

















              I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

              – eyeballfrog
              11 hours ago





              I would say they have a different shade of meaning--the first implies the firing was immediate, while the second suggests it happened at a later time before the present.

              – eyeballfrog
              11 hours ago











              1














              Your sentence is set in the past "By the time I got to the office...". That is why the past tense is used, I think. There is also a sequence of events:
              1.the meeting began 2.you got there late 3.boss was furious 4.you got fired. Past simple is also used for sequence in the past.



              "I have been fired" could be used to announce this recent fact (announcement of news) which is on your mind now because it affects the present = you have to look for a new job.



              "when you have been fired" is a passive sentence. Someone else has fired you, you have been fired by your boss.






              share|improve this answer






























                1














                Your sentence is set in the past "By the time I got to the office...". That is why the past tense is used, I think. There is also a sequence of events:
                1.the meeting began 2.you got there late 3.boss was furious 4.you got fired. Past simple is also used for sequence in the past.



                "I have been fired" could be used to announce this recent fact (announcement of news) which is on your mind now because it affects the present = you have to look for a new job.



                "when you have been fired" is a passive sentence. Someone else has fired you, you have been fired by your boss.






                share|improve this answer




























                  1












                  1








                  1







                  Your sentence is set in the past "By the time I got to the office...". That is why the past tense is used, I think. There is also a sequence of events:
                  1.the meeting began 2.you got there late 3.boss was furious 4.you got fired. Past simple is also used for sequence in the past.



                  "I have been fired" could be used to announce this recent fact (announcement of news) which is on your mind now because it affects the present = you have to look for a new job.



                  "when you have been fired" is a passive sentence. Someone else has fired you, you have been fired by your boss.






                  share|improve this answer















                  Your sentence is set in the past "By the time I got to the office...". That is why the past tense is used, I think. There is also a sequence of events:
                  1.the meeting began 2.you got there late 3.boss was furious 4.you got fired. Past simple is also used for sequence in the past.



                  "I have been fired" could be used to announce this recent fact (announcement of news) which is on your mind now because it affects the present = you have to look for a new job.



                  "when you have been fired" is a passive sentence. Someone else has fired you, you have been fired by your boss.







                  share|improve this answer














                  share|improve this answer



                  share|improve this answer








                  edited 12 hours ago

























                  answered 12 hours ago









                  anoukanouk

                  1,831414




                  1,831414






















                      Heda is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










                      draft saved

                      draft discarded


















                      Heda is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













                      Heda is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












                      Heda is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















                      Thanks for contributing an answer to English Language Learners Stack Exchange!


                      • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                      But avoid



                      • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                      • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                      To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                      draft saved


                      draft discarded














                      StackExchange.ready(
                      function () {
                      StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fell.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f207883%2fmy-boss-was-furious-with-me-and-i-have-been-fired-vs-my-boss-was-furious-wit%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                      }
                      );

                      Post as a guest















                      Required, but never shown





















































                      Required, but never shown














                      Required, but never shown












                      Required, but never shown







                      Required, but never shown

































                      Required, but never shown














                      Required, but never shown












                      Required, but never shown







                      Required, but never shown







                      Popular posts from this blog

                      Why do type traits not work with types in namespace scope?What are POD types in C++?Why can templates only be...

                      Will tsunami waves travel forever if there was no land?Why do tsunami waves begin with the water flowing away...

                      Simple Scan not detecting my scanner (Brother DCP-7055W)Brother MFC-L2700DW printer can print, can't...