Do I really need apt-daily.service and apt-daily-upgrade.service?Slow Boot time apt-daily-upgrade.service and...

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Do I really need apt-daily.service and apt-daily-upgrade.service?


Slow Boot time apt-daily-upgrade.service and apt-daily.service on Xubuntu 18.04 - ASUS K70IO laptopUbuntu 16.04 slow boot (apt-daily.service)Package operation failed E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)how to configure `aptd` to really stop accessing the internet when the machine starts?Ubuntu 15.04 very slow bootUbuntu 15.10 takes long time to bootHigh boottime - Big gaps in dmesgSlow boot time on ubuntu 17.10(3mins +)Some services causes slower boot time Ubuntu 17.10Ubuntu 18.04 LTS booting very slow after recent updateVery slow load on Ubuntu 18.04Ubuntu 18.04 on Asus Vivobook S take extra long to boot?Ubuntu 18.04 is taking long to loadboot startup speedup Ubuntu 18.04













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The startup with 18.04 seems to take a bit longer than 17.10 so I ran systemd-analyze blame and found that apt-daily.service and apt-daily-upgrade.service are taking up over three minutes between them.



:~$ systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 9.173s (kernel) + 3min 30.201s (userspace) = 3min 39.375s
graphical.target reached after 15.268s in userspace
:~$ systemd-analyze blame
1min 52.265s apt-daily-upgrade.service
1min 27.579s apt-daily.service
6.603s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
5.105s plymouth-quit-wait.service
1.517s plymouth-start.service
1.439s dev-sda1.device.............


So, what are these services actually doing (checking apt is up to date I imagine), why do they take so long and do I really need them to run on every bootup?










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    See Debian Bug #844453 for a complete explanation of the issue, and current work in progress to fix.

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The startup with 18.04 seems to take a bit longer than 17.10 so I ran systemd-analyze blame and found that apt-daily.service and apt-daily-upgrade.service are taking up over three minutes between them.



:~$ systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 9.173s (kernel) + 3min 30.201s (userspace) = 3min 39.375s
graphical.target reached after 15.268s in userspace
:~$ systemd-analyze blame
1min 52.265s apt-daily-upgrade.service
1min 27.579s apt-daily.service
6.603s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
5.105s plymouth-quit-wait.service
1.517s plymouth-start.service
1.439s dev-sda1.device.............


So, what are these services actually doing (checking apt is up to date I imagine), why do they take so long and do I really need them to run on every bootup?










share|improve this question




















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    See Debian Bug #844453 for a complete explanation of the issue, and current work in progress to fix.

    – user535733
    May 22 '18 at 11:48














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The startup with 18.04 seems to take a bit longer than 17.10 so I ran systemd-analyze blame and found that apt-daily.service and apt-daily-upgrade.service are taking up over three minutes between them.



:~$ systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 9.173s (kernel) + 3min 30.201s (userspace) = 3min 39.375s
graphical.target reached after 15.268s in userspace
:~$ systemd-analyze blame
1min 52.265s apt-daily-upgrade.service
1min 27.579s apt-daily.service
6.603s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
5.105s plymouth-quit-wait.service
1.517s plymouth-start.service
1.439s dev-sda1.device.............


So, what are these services actually doing (checking apt is up to date I imagine), why do they take so long and do I really need them to run on every bootup?










share|improve this question
















The startup with 18.04 seems to take a bit longer than 17.10 so I ran systemd-analyze blame and found that apt-daily.service and apt-daily-upgrade.service are taking up over three minutes between them.



:~$ systemd-analyze time
Startup finished in 9.173s (kernel) + 3min 30.201s (userspace) = 3min 39.375s
graphical.target reached after 15.268s in userspace
:~$ systemd-analyze blame
1min 52.265s apt-daily-upgrade.service
1min 27.579s apt-daily.service
6.603s NetworkManager-wait-online.service
5.105s plymouth-quit-wait.service
1.517s plymouth-start.service
1.439s dev-sda1.device.............


So, what are these services actually doing (checking apt is up to date I imagine), why do they take so long and do I really need them to run on every bootup?







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    See Debian Bug #844453 for a complete explanation of the issue, and current work in progress to fix.

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    See Debian Bug #844453 for a complete explanation of the issue, and current work in progress to fix.

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See Debian Bug #844453 for a complete explanation of the issue, and current work in progress to fix.

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See Debian Bug #844453 for a complete explanation of the issue, and current work in progress to fix.

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You can decide it by yourself. But on my systems (mainly 16.04 LTS) I have disabled both with:



sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service


Because of the fact that some functionality on desktop is provided by update-manager and

I do not want to get error messages about lock-files in archives or lists directories whenever I run apt manually.






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    Yes, it is important, you need it.

    If spending internet data is a concern to you like it is to me, you may not want it to be started so often.

    But that is useful to keep your OS secure by keeping packages updated.



    Now about the slow startup, others already answered how to workaround that :)






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      You can change the timer of the service, it should run after the boot, actually.
      Here's the solution.



      Ubuntu 16.04 slow boot (apt-daily.service)



      As a workaround, do sudo systemctl edit apt-daily.timer and paste the following text into the editor window:



      # apt-daily timer configuration override   
      [Timer]
      OnBootSec=15min
      OnUnitActiveSec=1d
      AccuracySec=1h
      RandomizedDelaySec=30min


      This changes the "timer" that triggers apt-daily.service to run at a random time between 15 min and 45 min after boot, and once a day thereafter. See the systemd.timer manpage for additional (not very well written, alas) explanation of what this means.





      If this is not working, create/edit the file in /etc/systemd/system/apt-daily.timer






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        You can decide it by yourself. But on my systems (mainly 16.04 LTS) I have disabled both with:



        sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
        sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

        sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
        sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service


        Because of the fact that some functionality on desktop is provided by update-manager and

        I do not want to get error messages about lock-files in archives or lists directories whenever I run apt manually.






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          You can decide it by yourself. But on my systems (mainly 16.04 LTS) I have disabled both with:



          sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
          sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

          sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
          sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service


          Because of the fact that some functionality on desktop is provided by update-manager and

          I do not want to get error messages about lock-files in archives or lists directories whenever I run apt manually.






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            You can decide it by yourself. But on my systems (mainly 16.04 LTS) I have disabled both with:



            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service


            Because of the fact that some functionality on desktop is provided by update-manager and

            I do not want to get error messages about lock-files in archives or lists directories whenever I run apt manually.






            share|improve this answer













            You can decide it by yourself. But on my systems (mainly 16.04 LTS) I have disabled both with:



            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.service
            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily.timer

            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.timer
            sudo systemctl disable apt-daily-upgrade.service


            Because of the fact that some functionality on desktop is provided by update-manager and

            I do not want to get error messages about lock-files in archives or lists directories whenever I run apt manually.







            share|improve this answer












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                Yes, it is important, you need it.

                If spending internet data is a concern to you like it is to me, you may not want it to be started so often.

                But that is useful to keep your OS secure by keeping packages updated.



                Now about the slow startup, others already answered how to workaround that :)






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                  Yes, it is important, you need it.

                  If spending internet data is a concern to you like it is to me, you may not want it to be started so often.

                  But that is useful to keep your OS secure by keeping packages updated.



                  Now about the slow startup, others already answered how to workaround that :)






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                    Yes, it is important, you need it.

                    If spending internet data is a concern to you like it is to me, you may not want it to be started so often.

                    But that is useful to keep your OS secure by keeping packages updated.



                    Now about the slow startup, others already answered how to workaround that :)






                    share|improve this answer















                    Yes, it is important, you need it.

                    If spending internet data is a concern to you like it is to me, you may not want it to be started so often.

                    But that is useful to keep your OS secure by keeping packages updated.



                    Now about the slow startup, others already answered how to workaround that :)







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                        You can change the timer of the service, it should run after the boot, actually.
                        Here's the solution.



                        Ubuntu 16.04 slow boot (apt-daily.service)



                        As a workaround, do sudo systemctl edit apt-daily.timer and paste the following text into the editor window:



                        # apt-daily timer configuration override   
                        [Timer]
                        OnBootSec=15min
                        OnUnitActiveSec=1d
                        AccuracySec=1h
                        RandomizedDelaySec=30min


                        This changes the "timer" that triggers apt-daily.service to run at a random time between 15 min and 45 min after boot, and once a day thereafter. See the systemd.timer manpage for additional (not very well written, alas) explanation of what this means.





                        If this is not working, create/edit the file in /etc/systemd/system/apt-daily.timer






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                          You can change the timer of the service, it should run after the boot, actually.
                          Here's the solution.



                          Ubuntu 16.04 slow boot (apt-daily.service)



                          As a workaround, do sudo systemctl edit apt-daily.timer and paste the following text into the editor window:



                          # apt-daily timer configuration override   
                          [Timer]
                          OnBootSec=15min
                          OnUnitActiveSec=1d
                          AccuracySec=1h
                          RandomizedDelaySec=30min


                          This changes the "timer" that triggers apt-daily.service to run at a random time between 15 min and 45 min after boot, and once a day thereafter. See the systemd.timer manpage for additional (not very well written, alas) explanation of what this means.





                          If this is not working, create/edit the file in /etc/systemd/system/apt-daily.timer






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                            You can change the timer of the service, it should run after the boot, actually.
                            Here's the solution.



                            Ubuntu 16.04 slow boot (apt-daily.service)



                            As a workaround, do sudo systemctl edit apt-daily.timer and paste the following text into the editor window:



                            # apt-daily timer configuration override   
                            [Timer]
                            OnBootSec=15min
                            OnUnitActiveSec=1d
                            AccuracySec=1h
                            RandomizedDelaySec=30min


                            This changes the "timer" that triggers apt-daily.service to run at a random time between 15 min and 45 min after boot, and once a day thereafter. See the systemd.timer manpage for additional (not very well written, alas) explanation of what this means.





                            If this is not working, create/edit the file in /etc/systemd/system/apt-daily.timer






                            share|improve this answer















                            You can change the timer of the service, it should run after the boot, actually.
                            Here's the solution.



                            Ubuntu 16.04 slow boot (apt-daily.service)



                            As a workaround, do sudo systemctl edit apt-daily.timer and paste the following text into the editor window:



                            # apt-daily timer configuration override   
                            [Timer]
                            OnBootSec=15min
                            OnUnitActiveSec=1d
                            AccuracySec=1h
                            RandomizedDelaySec=30min


                            This changes the "timer" that triggers apt-daily.service to run at a random time between 15 min and 45 min after boot, and once a day thereafter. See the systemd.timer manpage for additional (not very well written, alas) explanation of what this means.





                            If this is not working, create/edit the file in /etc/systemd/system/apt-daily.timer







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