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In The Colour of Magic, on page 46 of my copy, Twoflower says this word:




Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?




What term is being referred to above?



It seems to be like “in-sewer-ants-policy”, i.e. a term that they don’t have a word for in the language (“insurance policy”), but I can’t figure out what it’d be.



I asked two people who couldn’t figure it out, either.










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    Maybe provide a bit more context for this?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






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    @JMac - Additional context isn't really needed when you've read the book.

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Valorum I had read this part of the book and couldn't remember what it was referring to without seeing the answers. It seems strange to me. Does Twoflowers actually say "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" (doesn't seem right) or was that something Rincewind was thinking after Twoflowers tries to explain to him what he does?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






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    @JMac - Rincewind always transliterates Twoflower's speech into Morporkian. Twoflower is saying "echo-gnomics"

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Randal'Thor Yes. That's weird.

    – only_pro
    yesterday


















59















In The Colour of Magic, on page 46 of my copy, Twoflower says this word:




Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?




What term is being referred to above?



It seems to be like “in-sewer-ants-policy”, i.e. a term that they don’t have a word for in the language (“insurance policy”), but I can’t figure out what it’d be.



I asked two people who couldn’t figure it out, either.










share|improve this question




















  • 5





    Maybe provide a bit more context for this?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






  • 4





    @JMac - Additional context isn't really needed when you've read the book.

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Valorum I had read this part of the book and couldn't remember what it was referring to without seeing the answers. It seems strange to me. Does Twoflowers actually say "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" (doesn't seem right) or was that something Rincewind was thinking after Twoflowers tries to explain to him what he does?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






  • 7





    @JMac - Rincewind always transliterates Twoflower's speech into Morporkian. Twoflower is saying "echo-gnomics"

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Randal'Thor Yes. That's weird.

    – only_pro
    yesterday














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In The Colour of Magic, on page 46 of my copy, Twoflower says this word:




Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?




What term is being referred to above?



It seems to be like “in-sewer-ants-policy”, i.e. a term that they don’t have a word for in the language (“insurance policy”), but I can’t figure out what it’d be.



I asked two people who couldn’t figure it out, either.










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In The Colour of Magic, on page 46 of my copy, Twoflower says this word:




Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?




What term is being referred to above?



It seems to be like “in-sewer-ants-policy”, i.e. a term that they don’t have a word for in the language (“insurance policy”), but I can’t figure out what it’d be.



I asked two people who couldn’t figure it out, either.







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  • 5





    Maybe provide a bit more context for this?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






  • 4





    @JMac - Additional context isn't really needed when you've read the book.

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Valorum I had read this part of the book and couldn't remember what it was referring to without seeing the answers. It seems strange to me. Does Twoflowers actually say "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" (doesn't seem right) or was that something Rincewind was thinking after Twoflowers tries to explain to him what he does?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






  • 7





    @JMac - Rincewind always transliterates Twoflower's speech into Morporkian. Twoflower is saying "echo-gnomics"

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Randal'Thor Yes. That's weird.

    – only_pro
    yesterday














  • 5





    Maybe provide a bit more context for this?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






  • 4





    @JMac - Additional context isn't really needed when you've read the book.

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Valorum I had read this part of the book and couldn't remember what it was referring to without seeing the answers. It seems strange to me. Does Twoflowers actually say "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" (doesn't seem right) or was that something Rincewind was thinking after Twoflowers tries to explain to him what he does?

    – JMac
    2 days ago






  • 7





    @JMac - Rincewind always transliterates Twoflower's speech into Morporkian. Twoflower is saying "echo-gnomics"

    – Valorum
    2 days ago






  • 3





    @Randal'Thor Yes. That's weird.

    – only_pro
    yesterday








5




5





Maybe provide a bit more context for this?

– JMac
2 days ago





Maybe provide a bit more context for this?

– JMac
2 days ago




4




4





@JMac - Additional context isn't really needed when you've read the book.

– Valorum
2 days ago





@JMac - Additional context isn't really needed when you've read the book.

– Valorum
2 days ago




3




3





@Valorum I had read this part of the book and couldn't remember what it was referring to without seeing the answers. It seems strange to me. Does Twoflowers actually say "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" (doesn't seem right) or was that something Rincewind was thinking after Twoflowers tries to explain to him what he does?

– JMac
2 days ago





@Valorum I had read this part of the book and couldn't remember what it was referring to without seeing the answers. It seems strange to me. Does Twoflowers actually say "Reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits?" (doesn't seem right) or was that something Rincewind was thinking after Twoflowers tries to explain to him what he does?

– JMac
2 days ago




7




7





@JMac - Rincewind always transliterates Twoflower's speech into Morporkian. Twoflower is saying "echo-gnomics"

– Valorum
2 days ago





@JMac - Rincewind always transliterates Twoflower's speech into Morporkian. Twoflower is saying "echo-gnomics"

– Valorum
2 days ago




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3





@Randal'Thor Yes. That's weird.

– only_pro
yesterday





@Randal'Thor Yes. That's weird.

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The word is "echo-gnomics" ("economics")



An echo is a reflected sound; gnomes live underground.



Etymologically, "gnomes" [mythology] are described as "a legendary race of human-like beings, usually imagined as short and possibly bearded males, who inhabit the inner parts of the earth and act as guardians of mines, mineral treasure, etc." (Source: wiktionary)



Apparently I've played too much D&D where gnomes aren't specifically tied to the underground.






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    And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

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    2 days ago






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    Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

    – Paul
    yesterday








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    In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

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Rincewind tries his hand at a better translation later in the book (emphasis added):




Bloody hell, he thought. He’s alive! Me too. Who’d have thought it? Perhaps there is something in this reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? It was a cumbersome phrase. Rincewind tried to get his tongue around the thick syllables that were the word in Twoflower’s own language.

“Ecolirix?” he tried. “Ecro-gnothics? Echo-gnomics?”

That would do. That sounded about right.




As with 'insurance', the concept of 'economics' (a reflected sound is an echo, underground spirits are gnomes) is largely unheard of in that part of the disc. Rincewind describes it as 'financial wizardry' (emphasis added):




“Well, my point is, you see, that gold also has its sort of magical field. Sort of financial wizardry. Echo-gnomics.” Rincewind giggled.







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    Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

    – terdon
    2 days ago






  • 3





    While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

    – Two-Bit Alchemist
    yesterday






  • 11





    @Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

    – Valorum
    yesterday











  • The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

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The word is "echo-gnomics" ("economics")



An echo is a reflected sound; gnomes live underground.



Etymologically, "gnomes" [mythology] are described as "a legendary race of human-like beings, usually imagined as short and possibly bearded males, who inhabit the inner parts of the earth and act as guardians of mines, mineral treasure, etc." (Source: wiktionary)



Apparently I've played too much D&D where gnomes aren't specifically tied to the underground.






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  • 6





    And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

    – ruakh
    2 days ago






  • 14





    Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

    – Paul
    yesterday








  • 1





    In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

    – Matthieu M.
    yesterday


















109














The word is "echo-gnomics" ("economics")



An echo is a reflected sound; gnomes live underground.



Etymologically, "gnomes" [mythology] are described as "a legendary race of human-like beings, usually imagined as short and possibly bearded males, who inhabit the inner parts of the earth and act as guardians of mines, mineral treasure, etc." (Source: wiktionary)



Apparently I've played too much D&D where gnomes aren't specifically tied to the underground.






share|improve this answer





















  • 6





    And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

    – ruakh
    2 days ago






  • 14





    Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

    – Paul
    yesterday








  • 1





    In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

    – Matthieu M.
    yesterday
















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109







The word is "echo-gnomics" ("economics")



An echo is a reflected sound; gnomes live underground.



Etymologically, "gnomes" [mythology] are described as "a legendary race of human-like beings, usually imagined as short and possibly bearded males, who inhabit the inner parts of the earth and act as guardians of mines, mineral treasure, etc." (Source: wiktionary)



Apparently I've played too much D&D where gnomes aren't specifically tied to the underground.






share|improve this answer















The word is "echo-gnomics" ("economics")



An echo is a reflected sound; gnomes live underground.



Etymologically, "gnomes" [mythology] are described as "a legendary race of human-like beings, usually imagined as short and possibly bearded males, who inhabit the inner parts of the earth and act as guardians of mines, mineral treasure, etc." (Source: wiktionary)



Apparently I've played too much D&D where gnomes aren't specifically tied to the underground.







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  • 6





    And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

    – ruakh
    2 days ago






  • 14





    Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

    – Paul
    yesterday








  • 1





    In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

    – Matthieu M.
    yesterday
















  • 6





    And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

    – ruakh
    2 days ago






  • 14





    Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

    – Paul
    yesterday








  • 1





    In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

    – Matthieu M.
    yesterday










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And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

– ruakh
2 days ago





And here I thought gnomes dwelt in gardens!

– ruakh
2 days ago




14




14





Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

– Paul
yesterday







Those are gnomish felons, @ruakh. Gardens are the penal colonies of the gnome race, much like Australia was for Britain at one point. The bright clothing is both a punishment and a guard against escape.

– Paul
yesterday






1




1





In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

– Matthieu M.
yesterday







In D&D, gnomes have night vision and live in burrows, so they are pretty tied to underground. Are you mistaking them for halflings?

– Matthieu M.
yesterday















70














Rincewind tries his hand at a better translation later in the book (emphasis added):




Bloody hell, he thought. He’s alive! Me too. Who’d have thought it? Perhaps there is something in this reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? It was a cumbersome phrase. Rincewind tried to get his tongue around the thick syllables that were the word in Twoflower’s own language.

“Ecolirix?” he tried. “Ecro-gnothics? Echo-gnomics?”

That would do. That sounded about right.




As with 'insurance', the concept of 'economics' (a reflected sound is an echo, underground spirits are gnomes) is largely unheard of in that part of the disc. Rincewind describes it as 'financial wizardry' (emphasis added):




“Well, my point is, you see, that gold also has its sort of magical field. Sort of financial wizardry. Echo-gnomics.” Rincewind giggled.







share|improve this answer





















  • 33





    Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

    – terdon
    2 days ago






  • 3





    While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

    – Two-Bit Alchemist
    yesterday






  • 11





    @Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

    – Valorum
    yesterday











  • The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

    – Glen_b
    1 hour ago


















70














Rincewind tries his hand at a better translation later in the book (emphasis added):




Bloody hell, he thought. He’s alive! Me too. Who’d have thought it? Perhaps there is something in this reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? It was a cumbersome phrase. Rincewind tried to get his tongue around the thick syllables that were the word in Twoflower’s own language.

“Ecolirix?” he tried. “Ecro-gnothics? Echo-gnomics?”

That would do. That sounded about right.




As with 'insurance', the concept of 'economics' (a reflected sound is an echo, underground spirits are gnomes) is largely unheard of in that part of the disc. Rincewind describes it as 'financial wizardry' (emphasis added):




“Well, my point is, you see, that gold also has its sort of magical field. Sort of financial wizardry. Echo-gnomics.” Rincewind giggled.







share|improve this answer





















  • 33





    Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

    – terdon
    2 days ago






  • 3





    While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

    – Two-Bit Alchemist
    yesterday






  • 11





    @Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

    – Valorum
    yesterday











  • The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

    – Glen_b
    1 hour ago
















70












70








70







Rincewind tries his hand at a better translation later in the book (emphasis added):




Bloody hell, he thought. He’s alive! Me too. Who’d have thought it? Perhaps there is something in this reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? It was a cumbersome phrase. Rincewind tried to get his tongue around the thick syllables that were the word in Twoflower’s own language.

“Ecolirix?” he tried. “Ecro-gnothics? Echo-gnomics?”

That would do. That sounded about right.




As with 'insurance', the concept of 'economics' (a reflected sound is an echo, underground spirits are gnomes) is largely unheard of in that part of the disc. Rincewind describes it as 'financial wizardry' (emphasis added):




“Well, my point is, you see, that gold also has its sort of magical field. Sort of financial wizardry. Echo-gnomics.” Rincewind giggled.







share|improve this answer















Rincewind tries his hand at a better translation later in the book (emphasis added):




Bloody hell, he thought. He’s alive! Me too. Who’d have thought it? Perhaps there is something in this reflected-sound-of-underground-spirits? It was a cumbersome phrase. Rincewind tried to get his tongue around the thick syllables that were the word in Twoflower’s own language.

“Ecolirix?” he tried. “Ecro-gnothics? Echo-gnomics?”

That would do. That sounded about right.




As with 'insurance', the concept of 'economics' (a reflected sound is an echo, underground spirits are gnomes) is largely unheard of in that part of the disc. Rincewind describes it as 'financial wizardry' (emphasis added):




“Well, my point is, you see, that gold also has its sort of magical field. Sort of financial wizardry. Echo-gnomics.” Rincewind giggled.








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  • 33





    Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

    – terdon
    2 days ago






  • 3





    While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

    – Two-Bit Alchemist
    yesterday






  • 11





    @Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

    – Valorum
    yesterday











  • The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

    – Glen_b
    1 hour ago
















  • 33





    Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

    – terdon
    2 days ago






  • 3





    While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

    – Two-Bit Alchemist
    yesterday






  • 11





    @Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

    – Valorum
    yesterday











  • The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

    – Glen_b
    1 hour ago










33




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Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

– terdon
2 days ago





Might be worth pointing out that echo-gnomics would be pronounced economics, something that wouldn't be immediately obvious to people fortunate enough to have been raised speaking languages with rational spelling.

– terdon
2 days ago




3




3





While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

– Two-Bit Alchemist
yesterday





While a fair point, in my accent at least, echo-gnomics and economics sound quite different!

– Two-Bit Alchemist
yesterday




11




11





@Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

– Valorum
yesterday





@Two-BitAlchemist - I really can't be held accountable for the way that you colonials butcher the English language

– Valorum
yesterday













The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

– Glen_b
1 hour ago







The two have distinct "o" sounds (gnome having a long o). Do people in the UK really pronounce gnome as "nom"? It hasn't been my experience.

– Glen_b
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